
It is almost impossible to believe that a famous university, the University of Georgia, has issued the false findings referenced here. A reader sent me the following report, and asked for my comment. I have published this report as my first action and will now pursue the truth of the matter.
I found the below report actually published at: http://terepia.com/msm1.html The home page of this company is HERE -- they do not claim to make or sell MSM, but they do have two "articles" about it on their web. One is HERE, the one sent to me by a reader, and the other HERE.
This means that, at least, the reader who sent me the report was telling a straight story, so I now move onto a further investigation.
Before I read this so-called "University of Georgia" report I had expected that I had a lengthy study and research project ahead of me. When I searched the web for "University of Georgia Report MSM" I found not one single listing.
This Terepia company is spreading very misleading and deceitful information. I have already exposed this set of lies about the two prominent US manufacturers -- Cardinal and Carolwood. If you print it out, my report on their lies takes about 30 pages. It is HERE and HERE. The first link is one of my newsletters that went out to about 5,000 people. The truth about these liars is well publicized, but along comes some new company repeating the lies and many people have not had the benefit of reading my exposes. In addition to the above very detailed exposes of the lies in this MSM industry, there more interspersed in the tripe from Terepia, below.
I sent them a couple questions and will publish whatever answer I get. In fact, they did answer, and here it is:
Loren Troescher,
We apologies to not getting back to you sooner. Your E-mail was forwarded to me, since no one new what to make of it.
We do not want to mislead you. We do not manufacture the MSM. We use it for manufacturing only. We also do not want to compete by distributing MSM. Even if we believe we have a more superior product. We sell only ingredients that we manufacture. We also specialize in manufacturing liquid Nutraceuticals.
If you have any other interests or questions, I can be reached at 800-776-5438; ask for Raffi.
Best regards,
Raffi Dilsizian
CEO/Terepia International
March 25, 2003
Dear Raffi,Thank you for your response.I have published comments about the false claims you have published on your web site, and have also published your response, below, on one of my web pages:You certainly have a "right" to publish this type of stuff, but you must realize that both Cardinal and Carolwood have been carrying on a campaign of falsification of the source of MSM. Your "report" from a University is, of course, non-existent except what may have been paid for by one of these two unethical companies, and then published on their web site. I've noticed that many re-sellers, and users, of these MSM brands slavishly copy stuff from them with no independent judgment.I would hope you would explore the truthfulness of the claims that you have taken, from elsewhere, and placed on your web site.I'll be glad to publish any response.Regards,Loren C. TroescherakaKarl Loren
Basically I get tired of liars who repeat their lies, and then worry honest consumers into thinking that the MSM I sell is, somehow, inferior.
I could go through the entire exercise again, on this page, but I've done it already.
Let me just say that all MSM is made in the
exact same way -- from the waste product of the paper industry. The two US
manufacturers don't want to admit that truth, so they use clever little
deceptions to make you think that THEIR MSM is made from "trees."
Bosh!
Of course it is made from trees. Trees are cut down, chipped into small pieces, then these pieces are covered with sulfuric acid to soften them. The liquid is drained off and the chips go on to be made into paper. That stuff that is drained off? That is the raw material from which MSM is made. There is ONLY one process. Must of the claims of "bad stuff" are foolish -- for instance the claim of "fillers?" Crazy.
My MSM is 99.5% pure MSM and 0.5% moisture. No fillers. Fillers can be added but they add to the cost of the material.
Another deceptive claim made the the other two US manufacturers is that they have the ONLY patented MSM. This is bosh. I have every patent ever issued about MSM on my web site. I won't take two minutes to show how foolish their patent claim is -- I've written it in many other places.
I get angry at these companies, and have no sympathy for the customers who swallow their lies.
I want to state here, as an overall statement about this entire page, that the contents indicated as MINE, Karl Loren, are my strongly felt opinion.
Karl Loren

All MSM is not Created Equal
1.University Georgia Analyses Confirms that the MSM used by TEREPIA
INTERNATIONAL, INC. is a Natural Form of MSM
[Karl Loren Note:
This is pure tripe. First the word "natural" has zero meaning as I have
written years ago, here.
Either the University of Georgia has lost is senses, or they never used this
word. This line says that it is the MSM which is "used" by Terepia.
What does that mean. It is pure
psychobabble
-- a word that has meaning, but used in a context where the word has no
possible meaning. The majority of our society have had such terrible
education, particularly in the teaching of reading, that they are incapable of
seeing the stupidity of the above line.]
2. How can you tell what you are buying an organic source pine MSM? Does the
fossil fuel MSM have benefits like the natural pine MSM? Is there any long-term
side effect from fossil fuel MSM? A radiocarbon and stable isotope ratio
analyses of MSM has concluded "there is no addition or dilution with fossil
fuel-derived material," according to Randy Culp, research coordinator,
University of Georgia. This test, which is a carbon dating procedure, confirms
that MSM used by us is an all-natural source of MSM. A fossil fuel source would
indicate if the MSM is synthetic.
[Karl Loren Note: More pure tripe. There is zero 'inorganic" MSM being made anywhere. So, why would you worry that you might not be getting "organic" MSM. Furthermore the word "organic" has no meaning -- it is a valid word used officially, with MSM, but it means nothing more than there is carbon in the substance. It does NOT mean that it came from some source that was alive a few days ago.
Fossil Fuel MSM? This term, like many other lies, appears to have originated with Carolwood -- one of the two companies that make very deceptive claims about MSM. This phrase was invented by Carolwood -- it has no other origin. It is pure psychobabble. Now many others will copy it.
http://www.msm.com/articleDetail.cfm?AID=14 is the address on the Carolwood web site where this same foolish "study" is referenced.
If you gave ANY credence to a form of MSM manufactured from coal, for instance, you would have to believe that 1,000 plus 1,000 equals 2. MSM is cheap. It is cheap because it is made from a cheap raw material. The amount of MSM contained in fossil fuel would be so small and the job of extracting it so huge that it would never be even tried.
It angers me to see grown men write this junk, and other grown men take it seriously.
The term "natural pine" as a source of the MSM made by Carolwood is deceitful and misleading. MSM is made from the waste of paper making. Most paper is made from pine trees because pine tress grow fast and are cheap. The term "natural pine" is pure tripe -- psychobabble. The word "natural" used there is an emotional word to make you think their stuff is better than others.
It is not!
These tricksters say, "Is there any long-term side effect from fossil fuel MSM?"
Where in the whole wide world does anyone find "fossil fuel MSM?" Nowhere!
This is like saying, "Our MSM is tested and certified to contain no arsenic. Any MSM that is offered for sale and does not have an "arsenic free" certification is suspect. Where does this come from? The head of a mad nut!
There is this guy, Randy Culp, research coordinator, University of Georgia. I hope he finds this crazy claim by Carolwood, and is embarrassed. Yes, he is there. I'll bet if you write to him he will not know what foolishness he has lent his name to.
| Randy A. Culp, Research Coordinator | (706) 542-6122 | rculp@arches.uga.edu |
I suggest you send him a message and ask him if he has seen how his name is being used. CLICK HERE to send him a message.
It may be hidden on the Carolwood web site, but the very probable truth is that Carolwood is NOT a US company, and that the "factory" where their MSM is manufactured is not believed to be owned by them, that it is in Georgia (??) and that have a private deal with the true owner of the Georgia factory to make the MSM for Carolwood, and that this factory buys all its raw material from a factory in China in which the Carolwood executives have a financial interest. I state all of this as my opinion.
The crazy paragraph above includes, " A fossil fuel source would indicate if the MSM is synthetic.
Well, of course, a carbon dating procedure would show that the carbon in the material as "old" perhaps a million years. That old carbon could not have come from trees that grew this year or this century. But, no such "fossil fuel source" of MSM has ever been known to exist in a form of MSM powder. Yes, it would exist in coal -- yes the carbon dating of coal could show that the carbon is old, but taking the MSM out of coal would be impossible under any practical procedure. Yes, a loose word, "synthetic" could mean that MSM was extracted from something like coal, and yes any such (impossible MSM) would show up in carbon dating. Dr. Culp has, apparently, not lied, but he has lent his name, and the prestige of his great university to a commercial fraud.
Do not be fooled by any other testing, or company hype about pine wood and rain water.
[Karl Loren Note: Another terrible embarassment for Carolwood, is that they have NEVER had their MSM certified as being pure MSM by any well-known independent testing lab. Vibrant Life is the ONLY company that has certificates of analysis and purity from SGS, the world's largest independent testing lab -- with offices and lab facilities in more than 100 countries.
The molecular structure of fossil fuel DMSO and Pine DMSO are the same. This makes it impossible to determine the difference with regular testing. Certificate of analysis will not tell us the source of the DMSO. The only procedure to confirm the source of the DMSO of your MSM is Carbon Dating.
[Karl Loren Note: Here
is more junk stuff. This is true, but besides any point of value.
There is no MSM made from fossil sources -- so there would never be any need for
this carbon dating test. However, if someone wanted to test the Vibrant
Life MSM, or any other MSM made anywhere on the planet, the carbon dating test
would reveal no fossil fuel source. None!
ABSORPTION
Organic MSM used by Terepia International is highly bio-available v Inorganic
[Karl Loren Note: Since "inorganic" MSM does not exist it is pure tripe to make this statement.
To be properly absorbed and play a useful role in the body, it's essential that minerals are in a form that can be readily assimilated and used at the cellular level. MSM extracted from organic source (organic - from living source) is highly bio-available, compatible at the cellular level, and beneficial to health.
Karl Loren Note:
Well, here is more of the same tripe. The definition of "organic" above
was true a few hundred years ago, but as I have reported on another page, the
definition was changed so that now "organic" means that the substance contains
carbon. Coal is organic, in this sense, since it was originally living --
so these tricksters have now started talking out of both sides of their mouths.
Synthetic Minerals have to be oxidized in the body to become bio-available.
Since organic minerals do not have to be oxidized, they are much more
bio-available.
There has not been any long term testing of the synthetic MSM. But the
consumption of four to ten grams of synthetic MSM a day for the rest of one's
life is not advisable.
[Karl Loren Note: There
has been no long term testing of synthetic MSM because it does not exist.]
MSM FROM CHINA AND FRANCE
n an interview with Larry King on the American CNN TV Network,
Dr Ronald M Lawrence - a leading advocate for the use of MSM warned about
the impure grades of MSM which are currently being imported from China and the
Far East.
[Karl Loren Note: I happen to know a great deal about Chinese MSM. It is my opinion that Carolwood hides the fact that it gets its raw material for making MSM from China. The single producer of DMSO in the US was not, when I investigated, selling any DMSO to Cardinal -- the other US manufacture. I am confident that Cardinal imports and sells Chinese MSM to blend with its US stuff -- both of these companies, I believe, have hidden secrets.
I have had, indeed, many
offers to me from China -- I do not deal with them because I don't like their
politics. MSM can very easily be tested as to purity so that cannot be a
reason for turning them down. Their stuff is also very cheap because the
Chinese government subsidizes the Chinese manufactures of MSM in order to earn
hard currency. If you buy Chinese stuff you are helping the enemy. I
charge both Cardinal and Carolwood of doing just that.
In making this comment it should be understood that no disrespect is intended
toward any of the Far East Countries or the products they produce! Among other
things, they produce many fine, high quality and well engineered electronic
products. We are commenting here only about the MSM currently being imported
from these Countries which unfortunately leaves a lot to be desired regarding
purity!
[Karl Loren Note: You
wonder why they beg forgiveness from China? They do business, secretly,
with China, just as France has been doing billions of dollars worth of business
with Iraq.
MSM and DMSO from Fossil Fuel and not Pine Wood
Most forms of MSM imported from China, India, Europe and some US are synthetic.
Every MSM manufacturer and supplier and retailer explains the history of MSM
evolving from the ocean waters and eventually falling from the sky as in
rainwater. But they forget to confirm if their DMSO is derived from fossil fuel
and not from Natural source of pine wood.
[Karl Loren Note: Paper is made in every area of the world. China manufactures a great deal of paper. Whenever you make paper there are many different costs. The waste water from the process had been, for many years, discarded as useless until the value of DMSO and MSM were discovered. You can be sure that no one in China is throwing away the tons and tons of DMSO waste water from their paper industry. Also, there is no technology for taking DMSO or MSM out of coal, or crude oil. Crude oil is worth far more than DMSO. I sell MSM, manufactured in India, put into drums, shipped to the US, for as low as $3.00 for one pound. Do you think someone could buy crude oil, currently at $35 per barrel, and pay the costs for recovering something worth only $2 per pound? No!
Synthetic DMSO MSM used primarily in animal feeds (animal grade MSM), has found it's way into nutritional supplements suppliers
[Karl Loren Note:
To the best of my knowledge there has never been produced anything called
"animal grade MSM." When you use the web to search for "animal grade MSM"
you find all the same people who are creating these lies in the first place.
No manufacturer will supply this information unless they are using the real Pine
DMSO for their source.
Until it can be ascertained that high quality MSM is available from the Far East
it would be wise to avoid it!
NOTE: Some of the best herbal extracts and raw materials have come from
the far east. Unfortunately DMSO and MSM are not one of them. We do not want to
prejudice the consumer in any way.
Animal Grade MSM
The basic form of MSM was discovered over 20 years ago but long before studies
were done for human nutritional use, it became widely used by race horse owners
and veterinarians for successfully combating a wide range of animal complaints.
Animal grade MSM, commonly called "Horse Powder" is a basic and impure form of
MSM suitable for animal use only. It can and will have benefits to humans but at
what cost ? sometimes be detected by a very slight sulphur odor.
[Karl Loren Note: Indeed, MSM was used in the animal
market before it became common for humans. Even know companies that want to
avoid a price war will "mark" some regular (human) MSM as "animal grade" as an
excuse to sell it cheap. It is the same stuff as any MSM.
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MSM For Horses and Pets |
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MSM - Crystals |
Click here for one of the companies selling "animal MSM." This is the same stuff as any other MSM, but this deceptive company wants to cut their prices without seeming to cut their prices.
The company whose animal product is here sells "human MSM" at the same price as "animal MSM," but down the line they can and will offer bigger discounts.
MSM containing fillers
Fillers like magnesium stearate are added to many commercial products for
bulking purposes i.e. it fills the tubs/capsules up.
[Karl Loren Note: When
the material in a capsule is reasonably costly it makes sense to add "fillers"
that are much cheaper than the main ingredients. But, when you deal with a
single substance, like MSM, which is dirt cheap in large quantities, and which
can be tested for fillers with extreme ease, fillers are just not used --
unless they are put in deliberately to make the powder work better in a capsule
filling machine. Even the US companies sell MSM will fillers -- at the
request of the buyers.
There is a simple test which you can do to check if your MSM contains any of the
basic fillers like Magnesium Stearate or talc.
1. Depending which form it is in, simply dissolve the contents of about 6
capsules / four tablets or 1 (one) teaspoon of MSM in a glass of warm water (MSM
dissolves more quickly in warm water).
2. In the case of Crystals, Powder or Capsules, after fully dissolved, the water
in the glass should appear totally clear. If it has a milky or cloudy look it's
certain that it contains a filler/s. In the case of Tablets a small amount of
Magnesium Stearate and Silicon Dioxide is generally deemed necessary to the
tablet making process!
The above test is for fillers only - silicates and flow agents do not show up
using this method - see below
MSM Containing Silicates
Flow Agents and Anti-Caking Agents Silicates, flow agents and anti-caking agents
are added commercially for product appearance and ease of packing.
[Karl Loren Note:
Not for Vibrant Life MSM.
If the MSM in a tub is like free-flowing powder it is certain to contain one or
more flow agents.
Pure organic MSM forms naturally into larger crystals i.e.. The powder in your
container should therefore appear like white lumpy crystals!
[Karl Loren Note: They have it wrong again. MSM, as it is manufactured, comes out of the process as "cakes" of solid material. They must be ground into smaller sizes. There is a type of grind called "irregular grind" where the crystals are different sizes -- some small and some large.
Another method of grinding is
to grind the MSM cakes and allow them to flow through a screen -- only the
pieces small enough to go through the screen are used -- the other material is
ground MORE! Vibrant Life has sold both types. One common type we
sell is "60 mesh" which means that the screen has 60 holes per inch. This is
very fine MSM -- like very fine powder. Larger crystals are the exact same
chemical composition. The fine powder may take less time to dissolve in
water.
MSM & HEAVY METALS
Some MSM contained small amounts of heavy metal content - Only high
specification laboratory reports revealed these.
[Karl Loren Note:
Vibrant Life MSM has a test for heavy metals from SGS, the world's largest
independent testing lab. No metals have been found. The process of
making MSM would not normally provide any metal content, but metals could enter
because of dirty equipment or contamination of the air.
Animal Grades and those that cannot imported from the Far East should be
avoided.
[Karl Loren Note: What
should be avoided is MSM from liars.
WHAT IS MSM? MSM, or methylsulphonylmethane, is a naturally occurring organic source of nutritional sulfur with multiple functions in the body. It is found in all living organisms and is present in our body fluids and tissues. It is found in many foods such as fruits, vegetables, meats, fish and milk but is commonly lost during storage and cooking. Sulfur is a critical component of many important amino acids contained in our cellular proteins. Simply put, MSM is nutritional sulfur that is essential to a healthy body. MSM Ia A Bioavailable Sulfur Compound That Occurs Naturally In A Wide Variety Of Unprocessed Food Items. In Addition To Being One Of The Most Abundant Minerals In The Body, Sulfur Is A Component Of Various Amino Acids (Cysteine, Nethionine, Taurine), Vitamins (Thiamin, Pantothenic Acid, Biotin), Antioxident Compounds (Alpha Lipoic Acid, N-Acetylcysteine, Glutathione), Coenzymes (Acetyl Coenzyme A) And Hormones (Insulin). Sulfur Als Contributes To The Formation Of Double Bonds That Give Rise To The Physicial Structures Of Numerous Proteins. [Karl Loren Note: Those who write psychobabble often use the trick in this paragraph. They are talking about MSM, which,
indeed, is organic sulfur. However, he then talks about "sulfur" and
if you are not quick, you might think he has not changed the subject. [Karl Loren Note: This is a commonly circulated list of uses -- I have never personally endorsed all these uses even though you can probably find them on my web.
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